Category name:10mm firearms

5 stitch belt vs thick leather belt vs heavy pistol, part II

Previously, I had blogged that I didn’t think that my Wilderness 5-stitch belt was as good balancing the weight of a heavy pistol as a heavy-duty leather belt. I few people questioned that statement pointing out that they regularly carry a 1911 with one. I don’t doubt that, in fact I have also, so I decided to do a followup test.

The setup:
S&W 1066 10mm pistol (39.5oz unloaded)
Crossbreed IWB holster (actually for an M&P)
With and without a loaded spare mag in a Galco OWB mag pouch
Jeans
Wilderness 5-stitch vs Galco SB2 belt (both 1.5″ width)

The scenarios:
Walking the dog along trails, not heavy trekking but up and down hills quite a bit
Driving

I started with Wilderness because that is what I was wearing. The weight of the pistol quickly was noticeable. Within 10 mins my back began to hurt. I took the spare mag off and moved it to my jacket. It was marginally better. Not something I want to try again purposefully.

The next day I switched to the Galco belt and did the same trek. Much more comfortable. I was able to do the entire trek (about an hour) before feeling back pain. I did not have to remove the spare mag. However, again not my favorite carry method – far from comfortable.

Now the driving test was pretty much a wash. They both were comfortable (as much as driving with an IWB holster can be) up until they weren’t. I didn’t particularly like either after about 1/2 hour. I can’t imagine having to draw IWB while seated in a car but it was a convenient comfort test.

I have not yet gotten a reinforced Wilderness Belt but I suspect that would fare much better. Again the 1066 is a pretty heavy pistol so your mileage may vary, but I think an all steel pistol is better served comfort-wise with a good thick leather belt. However, I don’t hesitate carrying a Glock or M&P on the Wilderness.

Anyway, I stand by my initial evaluation.

Rethinking the single stack for travelling to mag restricted states

Well, it is time again to travel to California and I will be darned that I will not travel legally armed through my first two states because I cannot in the third (California).

Traditionally, what I have done is–before the border I disarm–unload, lock my firearm up in a lock box separately from the ammo which is then locked in the trunk.

There is much debate on possession of “high capacity” (meaning >10) magazines vs import into CA (the latter of which is illegal). This is now kind of moot, however–researching CA penal code shows that they have recently revised (or reorganized) the PC so that “high capacity” magazines are now considered a “public nuisance” and as such are subject to confiscation!

The easiest option it to buy ban compliant (10 round) magazines. Well, that quite frankly just seems wrong. In fact, it made me order a couple extra “high capacity” (in CA) mags. Not for CA that is.

So, it made me think…I have a few single stacks that fit the bill! I may get some flack but I think that a 5″ 1911 is uncomfortable for driving long periods of time, however a Commander length is perfect.

I am actually thinking of traveling with my S&W 1066. Why? Mainly because it is awesome and for some reason I don’t have a holster for it (I do for my 1006). In case you didn’t know I am a big 10mm fan. I happen to have an unused Galco Miami Classic II holster which I just ordered a High Noon Holster body for. I will let you know how it works out (driving that is).

My backup choice if that doesn’t work is a Glock 27 in a paddle holster. The sub-compacts just seem strange in a should rig. Close second was my P220, but I haven’t had any range time with it in years. But, it would be nice in a should rig due to its lighter weight.

SwampFox, serious 10mm ammo

Have you guys heard of SwampFoxGunWorks.com?

They have been getting excellent reviews for providing full power 10mm (and other calibers). Several people on various forums have confirmed SwampFox’s velocity #’s which are amazing. I just ordered some myself.

Check out this 10mm 200gr XTP load @ 1325fps!
http://www.swampfoxgunworks.com/swampfox/product.php?productid=17681&cat=397&page=1
(WARNING: For supported chamber pistols only!)

For those pistols without a fully supported chamber like Glocks and quite a few 1911’s I got this load:
10mm 200gr XTP @ 1240fps (still smoking!) I got a box of this too for my Colt Delta Elite.
http://www.swampfoxgunworks.com/swampfox/product.php?productid=17522&cat=343&page=1

I have been looking for a “thumper” woods load for camping/hiking/etc. And have selected this 200gr JFP (full power 1325fps). Again WARNING: For supported chamber pistols only!)
http://www.swampfoxgunworks.com/swampfox/product.php?productid=17721&cat=386&page=1

These loads are exactly why I bought a pair of S&W 1006’s!

They offer 5 round packs so that you can try the ammo, and will custom load to your specs!
They also offer other calibers like 45ACP+P and 357magnum. I am a big Hornady XTP fan, but they do offer other popular bullets too (Golden Saber, SilverTip, Gold Dot, etc).

Can’t wait to try it out! (More info to come later)
I am not affiliated, just a big fan of full power ammo.

S&W 645 hammer in S&W 1066 to gain half-cock, and S&W sears

Well, in rebuilding my second 1006 into a 1066 I wanted to put in a 645 hammer because it has a half-cock notch. Why? Because it makes the double-action stroke shorter and reminds me of my Sig P-220.

I was warned that the roll over of the 2nd Gen S&W’s was not as good as the 3rd gens (which the 1006 and 1066 are). I was given three sears to attempt to compensate for it: #2, #4, and #6.

The #4 is what the pistol had in it and the DA with the new hammer was HEAVY.
The #6 actually had the best DA and SA pulls BUT the break was HARD.
The #2 was the best compromise but the rollover was still noticeable.

I pulled it out and went back to the original hammer. Interestingly, I also tried my four different sears. The best and worst overall triggers went to the #4’s (one was really nice and the other terrible catch on break).

Weird huh?

S&W 10’s info

Ok, here is some info mainly for me but may be of interest to S&W 10xx fans. I wanted to put a lot of the 10xx info together in one place. These have been compiled from various sources available on the internet.

parts diagram (holy cow — there were only ~5000 1066’s!):

manufacture stats:

FBI training diagram on lubricating their 1076:

FBI 1076 Training Manual (pdf):
fbi_m1076_instruction_guide

S&W Ad:

Detail stripping the frame is pretty easy, if you know how to put the sear in:

FBI Adoption Report:
fbi_10mm_notes

1006 to 1066 – woohoo!

So, the 1006 is a little long so I thought I would make it a 1066. :)

The 1006 has a 5″ barrel while the 1066 is 4.25″. Other than that the pistols are identical, but it changes the balance quite a bit and is obviously more carryable.

1006

1066

Notice the shorter slide length in front of the dust cover.

1006 with 1066 slide assembly:

 

UPDATE: 10/08/2011 more pics moved from Flickr and are available in this post:
My new (to me) 1006

3rd gen part defect (not in the new 1006)

Well, it is from a 1006 (but not the mint one I just got). More on this one to come but here is a pic of the bubbled part which (I think) is causing the trigger to slightly catch in SA mode. Luckily, the reset is super short so one would never notice it during normal firing. However, since I have a mint 1006 next to this one to compare it was noticeable. Playing with the trigger play spring is how I noticed…So, what is this part and since it is catching on the frame, could it cause the famous 3rd gen SA trigger click? I think maybe..

What is interesting is that this 1006 is a former PD pistol and I suspect it has clicked/stuck from day 1!

UPDATE:
02/20/2011 – This part was replaced and appears that although it caught slightly it was not the cause of the clicking. I will do a complete write up on putting back together 1006 #2 shortly.

My new (to me) 1006 – a 10mm tank – and story

So, my first experience with the 1006 was in 1990 on a rental range. My girlfriend at the time absolutely loved it. I fell in love with the round but not the pistol — it was big, bulky, and heavy. It was a double-action/heavy first shot with a single action in which the trigger moved dramatically towards the frame. The safety was on the slide and worked the opposite of what I thought it should. It had plastic grips and a magazine disconnect. It was also very expensive. You see, I had just recently bought my first handgun (and one that I would carry for years to come) a Springfield 1911. I still have it and pics are on this site. It was chambered in 45ACP because it was $100 more for the 10mm version and the ammo was harder to come by and more expensive. I always thought I could get the 10mm linkless version later. Little did I know.

Enter 20 or so years later. I have come to appreciate some of those “negatives” I used to disdain. I have been looking for a 1006 locally for some time. I had seen a total of two. The first one I lost because I waited for the next day to buy it. The next one the buyer decided not to sell. However, I got a phone call from my local shop asking if I still was looking for one and they had got a LNIB in trade. They put it aside for me and I got it.

I couldn’t be more pleased. I still love 1911’s but what the heck was I thinking back then? This pistol was far ahead of its time. And it is a tank — by far the heaviest duty 10mm that I own (ok, my other two are 1911’s).

Let’s start with some pics…You can click on each one for the full view. From top to bottom left to right.

1. 1006 barrel close up – maybe the former owner shot a box or two through it.
2. Box – inside was the manual, sight adjustment tool, cleaning rod and brushes.
Product code puts it at a 1990-1 manufacture.
3. Closeup – Pics don’t do it justice. My wife was surprised at how big the pistol is.
4. Feed ramp close up – remember these came out in 1990!
5. Strangely, I got one yellow follower mag (probably original) and one of the newer white follower mags with the “improved” accuguide improvement to hold the rounds from moving forward from recoil.
6. Slide to frame fit – remember this is production pistol from 1990!
7. Left side
8. 9 shot mags stood up
9. Some features ahead of their time in a production pistol. From left to right: front strap serrations (still a mainstay on S&W 1911’s), undercut trigger guard (something pistols even today could learn from), checkered trigger guard
10. Side shot with slide locked open
11. Guide rod tube – this is included because a lot of Colt fans seem to think/complain if the wall thickness is not completely symmetrical. If you look REALLY close it is a little off. LOL
12. Rear sight closeup – fully adjustable with huge side shields. I like them and the way they look.
13. Reassembly wackiness – So, here is one thing that seems wacky: The hammer is cocked during disassembly (because the slide is pulled back). But, to put it back together you have to press down on three levers (I attempted to take a fuzzy picture to show, but neglected to focus). Anyway, one of those levers decocks the hammer. You then have to hold the three levers down to pull the slide onto the frame. Seems odd.
14. Guide rod and recoil spring assembly – the end is actually a spring loaded buffer. Neat.
15. Right side
16. Recoil rod fits into that notch. Does it look a little small and that you should be careful and hold onto the rod/spring while dis/assembly? It is.

All in all a beautiful pistol and probably the toughest (former) full production 10mm from a major manufacturer and I am glad to have one, but sad that it took me so long to appreciate it.

 

08/10/11: Pics moved off of Flikr.

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